i'm not asking this question to cause an argument or accuse, but i am honestly just wondering?
for those of you who are now atheist or non-christian, how did you come to this decision?
i hadn't given this much thought until about a year ago.
Once you have proof that their actions are the opposite of what they preach, (The Watchtower) then you start
I believe there was something that created life here, but not by any perfect all knowing God.
taking a reflective look back onto the founders of the jw religion such as c t russell and j rutherford we can see very opportunistic people who were avowed to themselves more so than being actual true bible interpreters and adherents.. indication of that is just how closed in these men were in their individually devised theology such as pyramidology, end times doctrine, jesus has returned and so on, where there was no effort to substantiate these claims from outside sources by other christian religious organizations .. c t russell was not an trained bible theologian by any imagination he just absorbed any outside information that he thought was engaging or provocatively interesting and went about publishing what others had found or expressed.
j rutherford was one these people who was lured into what russell was preaching and saw what the wts was as a publishing house and grab it including the money that russell had put into it.. the literature circulation and distribution continued on from him, what is realized now is the wts/jws preaching gospel work is not an faithfully accurate preaching according to scripture.
more or less the wts leaders created a working cult around its own public sales representatives in the pretense of preaching the gospel of jesus christ.
Opportunists are worse than criminals. Because an opportunist can be a family member or friend that sees an advantage and takes it no matter who is hurt or takes a loss. You just don't expect it. The world is rife with them unfortunately.
https://youtu.be/f40ukvgjsqw.
is it the first of april already?.
Makes you wonder if they play it on the weekend and sell popcorn. I wonder if the WT will think it's a good idea (hey but wait, they didn't think of it) or put out a memo - No thinking outside the box we put you in.
we are now in the 21st century of our common era with its insights into the potential of what can be achieved in the near future to benefit mankind for years to come .. the co-operation of governments around the world on so many levels has never been better than it is today and it is at least encouraging to see this .. whether it has to do with the climate , the environment ,food production ,safe water for all ,and the better health for all in the near future, and in the future space exploration.
however the problem today is still religion !
in its many extreme forms that divides us in no ways that politics divide us .. politicians learn how to compromise and work with their opponents for the greater good ,whereas religions don`t.. religions divide humans like no politicians ever did well not to the extremes religions will go anyway.. is their going to come a time in history when governments politicians say enough is enough and try attempt to abolish religion ?.
It is the opium of the people
I heard that many many years ago and didn't understand it. Now I get it. Especially after seeing a documentary about very poor people that lived where drugs were grown. They didn't have enough to eat, even the babies. So they would give the children opium so that they didn't feel the hunger. Everyone was addicted to the opium. It made their life bearable.
Until death is gone, there will be some kind of religion. Religion dulls the pain of death like the opium. Unfortunately, the ones who make religion a successful business, are sociopaths at best.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108217408/jehovahs-witness-child-sex-abuse-survivor-urges-examination-of-nz-church.
tom hunt18:56, nov 11 2018. it started with movies and bowls, but soon luke hollis was a young boy performing sexual acts on a jehovah's witness man four-times his age.. to hear hollis, now 28 and living in wellington, talk of the ordeal that tormented him for years during his childhood in england, it is remarkable how matter-of-fact he is.. but he is the first to admit he has a vendetta against his former church.. he wants to see jehovah's witnesses held accountable and he wants the church to apologise.
but mostly, he wants it to fully shed its "two witness" rule – a policy he argues makes the church a beacon for child sexual predators.. read more: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108217408/jehovahs-witness-child-sex-abuse-survivor-urges-examination-of-nz-church.
Massey University senior lecturer Heather Kavan, who researches religion, said while the Jehovah's Witness church was not necessarily a "hotbed" of sexual abuse, when it did happen it could be worse for victims who were manipulated into fearing the offender as well as God.
"As well as this, it's more traumatising for a survivor to report abuse to the Jehovah's Witnesses than it is to report it to the police," Kavan said.
"One survivor who spoke to the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse said that going through three criminal trials was easier than going through Jehovah's Witnesses processes."
It's a very well written article. Just shows what kind of "love" the JW religion really has.
... filling in holes in my cds.
give me composer, work, key if possible.
This might fall into the "classical" category or not. When Xanthippe mentioned The Steppes of Asia, I remembered this piece of music from Mongolia. The lead musician is playing a Morin Khuur, a two string instrument. The finger placement is interesting because they go above and below the strings. It always sounds like a voice to me because the notes bend.
hi guys!.
this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.
here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .
Can I cheat and say the series was a movie?
hi guys!.
this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.
here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .
DNcall - Cool. Is he doing music?
Does anyone remember Ben Hur? Miklos Rozsa did the score. At one part in the music you can hear a few lines of what was later in some WT music. I don't know if the WT stole it (who can imagine that?) or he contributed songs to the wT. I can't pin it down right now, I'd have to listen to the whole soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueS07YbMeUw
A great march maker as well as making it sound a little raw with all of the brass.
hi guys!.
this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.
here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .
Before John Williams, there was Eric Wolfgang Korngold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42NqTuTDTGE
Actually, I love the classical's too because they were the movie music of their time. They accompanied plays. Like Debussy. Any music that can invoke images and stir emotions is what I like. There are too many of them for me to pick a favorite.
this is a subject that the wt has covered many times.
it uses the example of human feelings as a basis to understand god.. for instance: under the heading "does god notice you?
", it goes into great detail of about what a woman feels when she bonds with her child.
blondie - wow what a rollercoaster of emotions. All dependent on your mothers meeting attendance. Such a terrible thing to have to contemplate as a child.
As someone that grew up in this religion, you think about the deaths of others at Armageddon - but the WT has a scripture for that too. Whenever I thought of people being destroyed I would think that God knew peoples heart and wouldn't destroy any that were good. Haha sadly I always thought that he would destroy me at Armageddon because I sinned in so many small ways and was never forgiven.
In the article "Who is To Blame?" after a list of selfishness, greed, time and unforseen occurrences and Satan, it says CONSIDER: Only a heartless, diabolical evildoer would cause innocent people to suffer.
So they admit that there are "innocent" people suffering. But the person who has caused this - GOD. He condemned the "innocent" children of Adam and Eve to a short life of suffering. At least this is something "truthful" from the WT. Not that I believe it anymore.
